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	<title>Comments on: How hard it is to run a hardware startup?</title>
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		<title>By: mitja</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/02/17/how-hard-it-is-to-run-a-hardware-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-18422</link>
		<dc:creator>mitja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the answer. Much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the answer. Much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: LukaBirsa</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/02/17/how-hard-it-is-to-run-a-hardware-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-18421</link>
		<dc:creator>LukaBirsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mitja:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;founding team: 1 Electronics guy, 1 Computer Science - Hardware design / newtorks oriented guy, 1 bussines guy. We did all of the design by ourselves, but since we didn&#039;t have prior experience in bussines of electronics (ie - what does it really take to pull off a mobile phone type of device), that meant lots of trial and error. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the learning curve is steeper than doing a SW startup due to sheer volume of things that can and will go wrong. Nothing is fast and nothing is straightforward. But now we&#039;ve acquired a lot of experience, that would probably take years of working in a serious electronics R&amp;D company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mitja:</p>
<p>founding team: 1 Electronics guy, 1 Computer Science &#8211; Hardware design / newtorks oriented guy, 1 bussines guy. We did all of the design by ourselves, but since we didn&#39;t have prior experience in bussines of electronics (ie &#8211; what does it really take to pull off a mobile phone type of device), that meant lots of trial and error. </p>
<p>I think the learning curve is steeper than doing a SW startup due to sheer volume of things that can and will go wrong. Nothing is fast and nothing is straightforward. But now we&#39;ve acquired a lot of experience, that would probably take years of working in a serious electronics R&#038;D company.</p>
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		<title>By: mitja</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I regret missing the talk @Cyberpipe. I hope the video will be uploaded soon.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Question to Luka: How much experience did you (the founding team) have with making electronics? Because as I see it - the founding team consists of two business guys and a computer guy, so you probably didn&#039;t have lots of experience building electronic gadgets and naturally it was really difficult to create something real? Did you as the founders actually build most of the device yourself or was most of the engineering work done by hired engineers?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Congrats for pulling it off - and I wish you a lot of success in business in the next years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I regret missing the talk @Cyberpipe. I hope the video will be uploaded soon.</p>
<p>Question to Luka: How much experience did you (the founding team) have with making electronics? Because as I see it &#8211; the founding team consists of two business guys and a computer guy, so you probably didn&#39;t have lots of experience building electronic gadgets and naturally it was really difficult to create something real? Did you as the founders actually build most of the device yourself or was most of the engineering work done by hired engineers?</p>
<p>Congrats for pulling it off &#8211; and I wish you a lot of success in business in the next years.</p>
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		<title>By: andraz</title>
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		<dc:creator>andraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...cannot expect financial analysts to do any proper work on evaluating what is worth investing in when it comes to high tech...people need to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;cannot expect financial analysts to do any proper work on evaluating what is worth investing in when it comes to high tech&#8230;people need to change.</p>
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		<title>By: andraz</title>
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		<dc:creator>andraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are none investors worth mentioning in slovenia, not even for software startup... the hardware is IMHO even more complex, meaning, there are 0 investors. Actually, its really as simple as that :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I have said (and many others) a few times, until the local ex high tech industry people get rich and start investing, there will be no real high tech investments in slovenia. You simply cannot expect the current</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are none investors worth mentioning in slovenia, not even for software startup&#8230; the hardware is IMHO even more complex, meaning, there are 0 investors. Actually, its really as simple as that <img src='http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As I have said (and many others) a few times, until the local ex high tech industry people get rich and start investing, there will be no real high tech investments in slovenia. You simply cannot expect the current</p>
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		<title>By: LukaBirsa</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/02/17/how-hard-it-is-to-run-a-hardware-startup/comment-page-1/#comment-18414</link>
		<dc:creator>LukaBirsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m the one that did the presentation so I could elaborate on the topic, but I guess Jure covered your question good enough. The main problem is the pool of investors in Slovenia, which lack experience compared to other countries.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyways - we are always looking for contacts and partners so feel free to get in touch with me at luka[dot]birsa{at}visionect[.]si regarding BeNeLux expansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex:</p>
<p>I&#39;m the one that did the presentation so I could elaborate on the topic, but I guess Jure covered your question good enough. The main problem is the pool of investors in Slovenia, which lack experience compared to other countries.</p>
<p>Anyways &#8211; we are always looking for contacts and partners so feel free to get in touch with me at luka[dot]birsa{at}visionect[.]si regarding BeNeLux expansion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jure Cuhalev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jure Cuhalev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hi-Tech + Slovenia = Problems&quot; because of relatively small IT work force here. With already limited money from investors, lack of great teams etc. it&#039;s harder to get traction than on a bit more developed markets.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Investors only occasionally see HW startups and there&#039;s a lack of portfolio companies, that in the end forces you to go look outside the country for opportunities. That&#039;s not necessarily bad, just that there are problems with getting traction for idea locally :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hi-Tech + Slovenia = Problems&#8221; because of relatively small IT work force here. With already limited money from investors, lack of great teams etc. it&#39;s harder to get traction than on a bit more developed markets.</p>
<p>Investors only occasionally see HW startups and there&#39;s a lack of portfolio companies, that in the end forces you to go look outside the country for opportunities. That&#39;s not necessarily bad, just that there are problems with getting traction for idea locally <img src='http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a stupid non-Slovenian, why is it &quot;Hi-Tech + Slovenia = Problems&quot;? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My impression is that you guys are ahead of the curve and smart enough. Is it reluctance of the potential customers?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The eMenu-idea sounds good, as you&#039;re dealing with restaurants instead of large retail chains. If they want to expand to the BeNeLux, give me a call :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a stupid non-Slovenian, why is it &#8220;Hi-Tech + Slovenia = Problems&#8221;? </p>
<p>My impression is that you guys are ahead of the curve and smart enough. Is it reluctance of the potential customers?</p>
<p>The eMenu-idea sounds good, as you&#39;re dealing with restaurants instead of large retail chains. If they want to expand to the BeNeLux, give me a call <img src='http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sparkica</title>
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		<dc:creator>sparkica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these notes. This was very interesting for me, especially the &#039;romantic&#039; part -- where most of us would fail. Fortunately, we can learn from experience provided by others, like Visionect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these notes. This was very interesting for me, especially the &#39;romantic&#39; part &#8212; where most of us would fail. Fortunately, we can learn from experience provided by others, like Visionect.</p>
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