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	<title>Comments on: Arrr, Slovenia, the land of pirates!</title>
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	<description>In pursuit of The Idea</description>
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		<title>By: Jure Cuhalev</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/10/26/arrr-slovenia-the-land-of-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-21665</link>
		<dc:creator>Jure Cuhalev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we did. They said that they can help only if you&#039;re the author of photo. They don&#039;t deal with take-downs themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we did. They said that they can help only if you&#8217;re the author of photo. They don&#8217;t deal with take-downs themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon B.</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/10/26/arrr-slovenia-the-land-of-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-21480</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So collect a list of the infringing pages and contact legal@istockphoto or something, to try to get this into the light of day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So collect a list of the infringing pages and contact legal@istockphoto or something, to try to get this into the light of day?</p>
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		<title>By: Andraz Logar</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/10/26/arrr-slovenia-the-land-of-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-20091</link>
		<dc:creator>Andraz Logar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all I can say is LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all I can say is LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Z-lot</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/10/26/arrr-slovenia-the-land-of-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-20030</link>
		<dc:creator>Z-lot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a minor shock to find those Uni LJ pictures from iStockPhoto... but then again, it is in line with everything else at Ljubljana University.

There are stock pictures like that one scattered all over their website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a minor shock to find those Uni LJ pictures from iStockPhoto&#8230; but then again, it is in line with everything else at Ljubljana University.</p>
<p>There are stock pictures like that one scattered all over their website.</p>
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		<title>By: Klemen Slavi?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klemen Slavi?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Jure&#039;s opinion – the Pirate Party in Slovenia is just a bandwagon that hopes to gain support by morally justifying what most people in Slovenia do illegally anyway.

If nobody pays for content people consume, there will be no money or incentive for people to produce with. But nobody wants to pay for it.

Now, advertising (eg. content for &quot;free&quot;) could solve some of the problems (like streaming shows off the Internet with embedded ads), but then the very same people who (I shan&#039;t say _steal_) get if for free bitch about the ads.

As a content author myself, my work is dependent on funding. The only difference is, my performances are live (improv theatre) and I am able to pay my rent (well, the performance hall, anyways). Not so for someone producing content in a reproducible medium, like music, video and written works.

What the Pirate Party here isn&#039;t trying to solve is how to optimize this divide, instead to just try and put up a wall to even further moralize piracy.

And while I don&#039;t support big media throwing the gauntlet at end users, I see no reason how piracy is a good thing. It&#039;s a consequence of the economic divide between what people perceive is the fair price and what publishers set to maximize their profits, only to boo-hoo their way to authorities when they see their content ripped online. It&#039;s a matter of closing this gap – I&#039;ve seen this happening in Slovenia with the Windows operating system. With the recent price drops and Microsoft making positive gestures and bringing incentives to end users, I&#039;ve seen people buy more software while noticing the prices go down in sync (like the Win741 program for students).

If you don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth the buck, don&#039;t buy it. There are plenty of other things in life to enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Jure&#8217;s opinion – the Pirate Party in Slovenia is just a bandwagon that hopes to gain support by morally justifying what most people in Slovenia do illegally anyway.</p>
<p>If nobody pays for content people consume, there will be no money or incentive for people to produce with. But nobody wants to pay for it.</p>
<p>Now, advertising (eg. content for &#8220;free&#8221;) could solve some of the problems (like streaming shows off the Internet with embedded ads), but then the very same people who (I shan&#8217;t say _steal_) get if for free bitch about the ads.</p>
<p>As a content author myself, my work is dependent on funding. The only difference is, my performances are live (improv theatre) and I am able to pay my rent (well, the performance hall, anyways). Not so for someone producing content in a reproducible medium, like music, video and written works.</p>
<p>What the Pirate Party here isn&#8217;t trying to solve is how to optimize this divide, instead to just try and put up a wall to even further moralize piracy.</p>
<p>And while I don&#8217;t support big media throwing the gauntlet at end users, I see no reason how piracy is a good thing. It&#8217;s a consequence of the economic divide between what people perceive is the fair price and what publishers set to maximize their profits, only to boo-hoo their way to authorities when they see their content ripped online. It&#8217;s a matter of closing this gap – I&#8217;ve seen this happening in Slovenia with the Windows operating system. With the recent price drops and Microsoft making positive gestures and bringing incentives to end users, I&#8217;ve seen people buy more software while noticing the prices go down in sync (like the Win741 program for students).</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth the buck, don&#8217;t buy it. There are plenty of other things in life to enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: gyzar</title>
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		<dc:creator>gyzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mama manka: &quot;2nd/3rd world countries&quot; ... it&#039;s just wrong to use expressions like that!

fun article, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mama manka: &#8220;2nd/3rd world countries&#8221; &#8230; it&#8217;s just wrong to use expressions like that!</p>
<p>fun article, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jure Cuhalev</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/10/26/arrr-slovenia-the-land-of-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-20003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jure Cuhalev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
&lt;blockquote&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; For building IT awareness in 2nd world countries (Slovenia), piracy should not be persecuted for private parties involved in piracy.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Statements like these are dangerous because they also undermine the basis of open source and other open licenses. That&#039;s my main problem with endorsing &quot;legalized P2P sharing&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>>>> For building IT awareness in 2nd world countries (Slovenia), piracy should not be persecuted for private parties involved in piracy.
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<p>Statements like these are dangerous because they also undermine the basis of open source and other open licenses. That&#8217;s my main problem with endorsing &#8220;legalized P2P sharing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama manka</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/10/26/arrr-slovenia-the-land-of-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-20002</link>
		<dc:creator>Mama manka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For building IT awareness in 3rd world countries, piracy is actually good.

For building IT awareness in 2nd world countries (Slovenia), piracy should not be persecuted for private parties involved in piracy.

As for the 1st world countries...the market and law should take care of everything...it would probably even grow a big market of obfuscating ip lookup of all parties involved in piracy, within the legal system itself... but at least everybody would pay :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For building IT awareness in 3rd world countries, piracy is actually good.</p>
<p>For building IT awareness in 2nd world countries (Slovenia), piracy should not be persecuted for private parties involved in piracy.</p>
<p>As for the 1st world countries&#8230;the market and law should take care of everything&#8230;it would probably even grow a big market of obfuscating ip lookup of all parties involved in piracy, within the legal system itself&#8230; but at least everybody would pay <img src='http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jure Cuhalev</title>
		<link>http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2009/10/26/arrr-slovenia-the-land-of-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-20000</link>
		<dc:creator>Jure Cuhalev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe in things that Slovenian Pirate Party is (currently) fighting for: taking away the rights of the authors.

We are all very happy to talk to them, each week we organize a number of events to which they can come and get themselves educated on the issues. They&#039;re welcome to come and talk to us, about our problems and issues we&#039;re fighting for.

They&#039;re not present in our community and they don&#039;t seem to be willing to take part in the established infrastructure of support and knowledge that has been already built.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not believe in things that Slovenian Pirate Party is (currently) fighting for: taking away the rights of the authors.</p>
<p>We are all very happy to talk to them, each week we organize a number of events to which they can come and get themselves educated on the issues. They&#8217;re welcome to come and talk to us, about our problems and issues we&#8217;re fighting for.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not present in our community and they don&#8217;t seem to be willing to take part in the established infrastructure of support and knowledge that has been already built.</p>
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		<title>By: lea</title>
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		<dc:creator>lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and yes it was a very sad performance, I agree..but they are obviously not ready for that kind of confrontation at least not without people who are use to performing and speaking to crowds....or with people with some experience in this field...sometimes you just try to do something you believe in and hope that people will follow and contribute with their own ideas and knowledge...but i guess sometimes or most of the times that just doesn&#039;t happen....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yes it was a very sad performance, I agree..but they are obviously not ready for that kind of confrontation at least not without people who are use to performing and speaking to crowds&#8230;.or with people with some experience in this field&#8230;sometimes you just try to do something you believe in and hope that people will follow and contribute with their own ideas and knowledge&#8230;but i guess sometimes or most of the times that just doesn&#8217;t happen&#8230;.</p>
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